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Thursday, November 17, 2005

At Capacity

Reporting Live

The debate tonight is filled to capacity, so much so that the lobby is littered with over 100 would-be guests who RSVP'd, but are being denied entrance - including some of the media, btw. Daily News and Newsday reporters were seen slummin' it down there.

Way to go, CU & Co. !

Was anyone keeping tabs on the RSVP list and comparing it to the room's capacity? Again, can't have a public forum without the public.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone ask Comrie how many Council meetings he slept through?

9:03 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did Melinda alone bend over backwards to praise Gifford and the performance of the Council over the last four years? Weren't most members frustated by Gifford's self-absorbed leadership?

9:24 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The forum was not just hosted by CU, but by the Baruch School of Public Affairs and the NY League of Conservation Voters.

9:57 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd rank em
1) Quinn - articulate, substance,pleasant.
2) Fidler -Funny, well spoken
3) Weprin- Knowledgeable, mature but boring
4) Katz - Too pro getting rid of term limits, fast talker and beet red.
5) De Blasio - Biggest
dissapointment, sleepwalked thru it
6) Rivera likable but lacks substance
7) Comrie sloppy answers, limited ideas

10:15 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, De Blasio is supposed to be engaging...certainly wasn't.

Fidler was the biggest surprise...if Brooklyn was going to vote on substance for some odd reason, he kicked DeBalsio for sure...and who was the consultant for Hillary?

10:24 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:15, you are way wrong on Weprin. Weprin had to be the biggest dissapointment. All he demonstrated was that he lacks a backbone for refusing to directly answer certain questions.

Rivera actually did well, better than what people expected. Quinn, Katz, de Blasio, Fidler and Rivera were the strongest.

10:49 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hellooooo Melinda, g'bye Chris! The playing field is changin'.

10:57 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...


This isn't 10:15 and you're wrong.

Disappointment means that he did not live up to one thought Weprin would be engaging. Therefore, he met everyone's expectations as he was a snoozer.

DeBlasio was supposed to make a mark and he DID NOT…at all. He had nothing new, different or innovative to say. Therefore, he was a DISAPOINTMENT.

11:07 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey, 10:15: guess to give such a glowing report you must have thought all those weird faces cq made at the audience throughout the debate were special just for you, coz i read 'em as smug and immature.

11:08 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fidler has bucked ranks a few times, but he's too close to Vito Lopez.

Quinn? God Save NYC from her.

Katz is not as horrible, but still bought

The rest ... might as well bring back Virginia Fields, Vallone Sr. and the other jokers.

7:06 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think last night's debate was good for what it was: a chance for candidates to introduce themselves to the interested public, allow them to discuss their Speaker-like qualities and weigh in on public policy debates. I don't think the debate will play any role in the actual Speaker selection or candidacy and it is strange to see people make comments about the "playing field changing" and the like. That said, the real winners is Council reform provided the Speaker-elect follows through on the ideas discussed yesterday.

7:39 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The debate this evening was exactly what insiders in the business would have expected. On a scale of 1-10, no one was a 10. At best, three candidates, Katz, Quinn and Comrie were somewhat stronger than the other 4. No major gaffs throughout the evening or David Seifmann, the NY Post City Hall guru would not have walked out immediately after the debate concluded.

8:56 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...


FOr anyone of you who have actually attended a Council meeting with any of these folks, this is what you should have noticed.

Rivera: forever searching for the right answer, trying to keep pace with those more experienced than he is.
Weprin: poor attempts at humor and always trying to be sharper than he is. Smart man, just not good from the hip.
DeBlasio: very dissapointing, flat. Surprising considering all the CLinton hacks surrounding him afterward.
Katz: better than usual, but a bit gruff in certain situations.
Quinn: too prepared. Appeared as if she knew the line of questioning ahead of time. Miller definitely got his central staff to load her up on facts. Nice advantage.
Fidler: very personable, quite witty. But his wittiness occassionally overshadowed his substantive answers.
Comrie: Short, simple answers. Only one to challenge Muzzio on a question that had further implications that the audience would not have recognized.

9:04 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone happen to notice that while the organizers were clear that none of the candidates were to have notes, three of the four did? Also, that DeBlasio read the majority of his statements, including his opening comment and still was not impressive.

9:07 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...


I noticed that as well. Not impressive overall!

2:29 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

did anyone notice that the questions were all ones that led to everyone pretty much in unison on the issues.

The only quality that allowed us to see the differences is when
Muzzio asked why they wanted to be Speaker. I advise all readers to look back at every candidates response and that is where the two best candidates can be found.

12:27 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was a waste of time but probably a good PR move on the council's part. Nobody knows who will actually win and this debate did nothing to influence any councilmembers, we're dealing with 51 egomaniacal crazies who will base their final decisions on race, personal relationships, campaign/fundraising, or will simply be bullied by some corrupt party official of their borrough.

that said:
Comrie is a moron. Seriously. he just didn't seem to have the intellectual capacity to do the job.
de Blasio was indeed boring, but he's got good connections, so there must be something to money.
Katz is clearly not a nice person, but well-equipped intellectually.
Quinn is, I mean, whatever, I like her.
Fidler - i was embarassed for your children, stop joking, you're too smart for that.

Overall: really, truly boring.

4:12 PM

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