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Thursday, March 02, 2006

The Council Responds

Better Late Than Never?

At 6:04PM yesterday, 5 days and 5 hours after our initial FOIL submission, we received the Council's official acknowledgment of our request, saving us the hassle of having to file an immediate appeal with la Speaker Quinn.

The document, btw, was created at 5:25PM yesterday. And as you can see (by clicking on the image on the left), a lot of work went into this arts & crafts project; we didn't even get the Council letterhead treatment?!?!? No matter.

We commend the folks at the Council for taking the time to engage. This is a good thing.

Now we just need to know when we'll be gettin' the info ... that much wasn't made so clear.

But, patience is our virtue. We've got nothin' but time...


Anonymous Anonymous said...

can see why it took them 5 days...

10:40 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Mr. O'Malley needs to take a grammer course.

10:46 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually I'm surprised they even acknowldged the request, but this is par for the course from most agencies. I've never seen any acknowledgment that is more than this. Of course what matters is the follow-up. At least it gives you a name to whom you may direct future inquiries. Usually Records Access Officers (every agency has one) are flunkies doing their job. They will facilitate most FOIL requests unless higher-ups decide they are politically sensitive.

Note that it's simply an acknowledgment of receipt of the communication; it does not say they will comply or decide if there are any exceptions.

For the nature of the request, I'd give it two weeks prior to ay further action.


11:11 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the same O'Malley who is connected to Tom Manton, and who is the only lawyer in teh legal division to survive the massacre, and who was promoted with a big raise to be "Counsel to the Speaker". Talk to former city clerk Carlos Cuevas about O'Malley. O'Malley was his counsel, and the two never even spoke. Victor Robles had more juice adn got rid of him. O'Malley never had a job that Manon didn't get for him. Hell will freeze over before you get a substantive reply to your FOIL request. Maybe you should contact one of the fired lawyers and ask one of them to represent you, roomie!

11:13 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Word to the wise: if you ever file a FOIA request, in the letter you should write a line in stating something to the effect of "I am prepared to pay any fees required to process this request."

If you don't include this line, many agencies block your FOIA request by sending you back a letter saying "Are you willing to pay a processing fee up to $150 to access this request" or something like that.

1:04 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good God, 1:04 knows nothing. First, it's FOIL for FOI LAW, FOIA (for "ACT") is the federal version.

Second, while yes, it's advisable to make an offer to pay, it's not legally necessary and no NYS agency can or will try to hit you up with a processing fee. There's no legal basis for that. Agencies can charge $0.25 per page.


1:14 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is the letter dated January 23, 2006 when the FOIL request was February 23, 2006? Just asking...

3:46 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Yes there is no legal basis for it, but it is SOP when you FOIA something from say, the CIA or FBI.

-1:04 pm

3:54 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right on target 11:13. Ed O'Malley not being fired and the other Manton hacks being hired says it all about Quinn's misuse of taxpayer funds. She bought being Speaker by selling taxpayer funded jobs to Manton and put 61 people out of work in the process. Cato should resign.

10:15 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:15, I am glad you agree with me. Two decades or so ago, there was a huge investigation of patronage appointments under Koch. I think John Feerick headed up the investigaton. The hearings were actually held at the prestigious city bar association on 44th street, and lasted several days. The investigaton itself was very thorough. Koch's patronage dispenser, a fellow known as "Joe D" was actually charged with a crime. He escaped because of a legal technicality (there wasn't a requisite number of anti-corruption commissoners present when he was deposed)but his careeer was over and Koch's reputation was forever damaged.

Why hasn't an anti -corruption commission like that one been appointed? You would think that public outcry would be the catalyst. Maybe because every elected is terrified of Manton, even Spitzer, and even "I'm too rich to be beholden to anyone" Bloomberg.

9:18 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

There hasn't been concerted pressure by the press for that too happen. Bloggers and blog commenters can help to change that. Manton would be gone if Queens had D.A. Hynes instead of Brown. Brown's been in bed with Manton since he got in and has turned his office into a patronage mill for Manton. In return, Manton keeps sending his petitioners to keep Brown on the ballot whenever the need arises. The press should be asking questions about their cozy relationship.

3:55 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:55, you are so right. Now Petey Vallone jr., another Manton hanger-on, is gearing up to run for Queens DA and Brown will get something else-a federal judgeship perhaps?

If Cuomo becomes AG, Manton will accomplish what Donald Manes, the most corrupt Queens pol ever, could not. Manton will control the AG office, the Queens DA office and the Council through Quinn. If Giffie Miller had become Mayor, Manton would have controlled that too.

It's interesting that Quinn has endorsed Cuomo, the author of 'vote for Cuomo, not the homo" notoriety. Cuomo can deny it all he likes, but I heard it myself on loudspeakers in my neighborhood at the time, and it was openly discussed in political circles at the time that it was his and his father's idea. But Manton wants Cuomo to be AG, so Quinn endorses Cuomo.

4:16 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Manton really that powerful? I mean, c'mon, the day of the machine is long gone. They must love that they are still perceived to be so influential.

5:51 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

5:51 Would that it were so. Unfortunately, Manton's power has just been increased by Quinn's selling taxpayer-funded jobs to him in return for votes for her to be Speaker. The number of hires of Manton's hacks by the Queens D.A.'s office also is a fact. It is no coincidence that Manton has kept putting Brown on the ballot and Brown has done nothing to investigate Manton's control over the courts in Queens. Unfortunately, the press has not yet questioned the relationship between Manton and the Queens D.A.'s office. And 4:16 is right to the last detail.

12:21 AM


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